You clearly don't read then, because I'm strictly trying to get CCP to accept someones idea, I'm not here to prove anything. Fact of the matter is that all too many have suggested ideas to make it better and CCP sits on their asses.

So, while you would like to coax me into some kind of "here is your proof" argument, keep in mind that I simply want CCP to be exposed for the real reasons no change happens, they fear losing subscriptions more than making things better.

I'm still baffled by the defense of FW.

It doesn't encourage pvp, people simply pvp in spite of it.

It doesn't encourage teamwork, people simply gravitate toward social activities.

It doesn't reward risk, people can avoid risk as much as they want.


Does it work as it? Sure, but being satisfied with it is like enjoying a stale sandwich without meat or condiments. Yeah, its edible, but why would you want to eat it or at least complain about what you got that is somehow called a sandwich.

Sure they can. Rollbacks and notifications and we will have fw sov as a pvp mechanic.

Np - How much would you like to pay?

Sorry, but first we're not talking about a single sand grain on our cheesecake, but even if we did I dare wonder who of us still eats the cheesecake at a restaurant after discovering sand on it.

I think we fail to realize that we pay for CCP's livelihood and WE should determine when something isn't good enough and THEY should want to fix it when WE complain.

No wonder we let our politicians become corrupt in rl, we just let them do whatever they want to us in the name of "they do so much already for us".

I have more tenure as a player than most of the current CCP employees, so I can surely respond to this.

You're full of sh*t.

CCP has been successful because they listen to their player base, the last time they ignored us they almost completely lost the game to unsubbing, BY THEIR OWN ADMISSION. They have a CSM, they present ideas on a test server and ask for feedback all the time. Hell, they may have a vision of their game, but 99% of the ideas probably come from the player base. You need to remove CCP from your pedestal and realize that the players make this game the great game that it is and at times people ask for stupid changes and CCP has the vision to ignore them.

Good Lord, leave it to some 2011 player who hasn't been around long enough to remember the awesomeness of high risk/reward pvp they once had in this game. Took me 2 months to earn enough for a skill book and a damn badger mark II. Had to ninja mine for bistot while mOo threatened to kill you and there was no insurance or warp to zero or bookmarks. This game has been on easy mode and tbh, they are about as close to the risk/reward system of WoW as they have ever been.

All we're asking for it some balls to create something based on its name, FACTIONAL WARFARE. Its plexing, and the pvp to be had with it is no more than you can find in empire by dueling ignorant noobs.

You and Terhiss should do us all a favor and share your comments where they may do some good, perhaps we have a cooking thread and you two can talk more about cheesecake.

Yeah just go an convince more people to make farm alts than there are farmers against you, to join your losing side where they wont make much money, so you can flip the systems so pvpers can pvp better by actually docking to reship/refit etc

its that easy and the mechanics are fine.

im not sure why fw is even in low sec anymore, since the focus is to get chars into it for the easy isk and not about pvp

they would get more alts rolled if it was high sec tbh


but oh noes? who would shoot the hubs!?

Gawd.

I swear, this CCP worship is getting out of control.


Here are some simple fixes that may be more appealing to the softer heart.



1) Remove sec hits from FW space so we can freely shoot anything, but still keep it low sec by not allowing Super capital stuff, bubbling, etc.

2) Gotta change beacon mechanics. Its dumb and if you don't agree with how it works, you're stupid. Yes, that is my argument at this point, tired of beating my head against a wall with some of you morons.

3) Provide more tools where we can find fights easier, space is big and so is FW space.


Better you bleeding heart CCP lovers?

Problem is most of us are tired of moving onto something else as nothing is working "well".

Null = broken
Empire wars = broken
FW = broken

Where else can we find lots of consensual pvp?

Null = stay docked, they move on
Empire wars = Barely consensual and pretty pathetic now
FW = Plex wars


Perhaps if you suggest something, i'd actually give up as you suggest and try that instead.

I did take a break Bro, almost a year I've been inactive. Came back to the same half assed system I left and still look around at options and see PvP still a shadow of its former self everywhere I look.

Enough of your banter, stfu & go find another thread to troll.


I swear, some people need to get a life.

Again, shut up. Don't need you to empathize with me, you're an alt claiming old player with terrible pvp stats who flies in t1 frigs, how could you possibly empathize?

I'll do you a favor, I'll have sympathy for you since you're a brown nosing ignoramus.

Are you upsetting the spazzos again Tao????

Yeah fine, point taken. List is here. CCP needs to implement it.
Here's what they said at fanfest (according to one blogger): CCP FW Summary

I left that to attend the Faction War round table. The bloody farmers were out in force and they were a big topic. Warp core stabs and cloaking Daredevils were talked about extensively. CCP may change the rats to make warp core stabs a poor choice!

Another good thing was button counters slowly resetting so those bouncing from plex to plex whilst being chased would lose their "hard earnt" work to that point.

Large plex spawning is not working as intended. There is a bug that needs to be squashed, but first needs to be found.

CCP want to split militia and allied militia in the overview so you can shoot your allied militia if you want.

The bug where friendly rats shoot you is a bug! Needs fixing.

Talked about giving neuts a suspect flag if they enter a plex. Good idea!

CCP want to iterate further on system control and benefits for having high upgrade levels.

All good stuff but as expected FW is not going to get any significant developer resources for the foreseeable future.

Next up was live events

Well, the person is willingly moving into a conflict zone with an ongoing war .. doubt troops in Baghdad simply ignored everyone not in uniform .. actually, since plexes are military installations the comparison would probably be better if instead of Baghdad one used <-insert FOB name-> and had a random civilian wander through the gate.

I think its great to have suspect flag in the plexes. Some people are concerned about their sec status and that is one reason why they join fw. Neutrals who go in are going in for pvp. I see no reason why the sec status should continue to act as a deterent to pvp.